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Please let me know at drishtikone dot mail gmail dot com thanks, desh. Please remember that Rg Veda is not the oldest literary work. Sumerian Gilgamesh is about a thousand years older. Rg Veda is the oldest literary work from the Indian subcontinent.
That would be a circular argument. Then Sarasvati is the know in Rigveda much prior to they knowing Sindhu. SO Rigveda is older than Harrapa. It was written in East as they know of Saraswati and not Sindhu in earlier portions. Sarsvati is a measure river when Sarasvati is written. It dries up around BC. So Rigveda is much earlier to Indus valley civilization.
IN Mahabharata Sarasvati is in the beginning stages of drying. Hence Mahabharata is also prior to BC. That alone takes Veda prior to BC. Periannan; your this statement is based on the European chronology of Rigveda, and since that is being disputed your argument would be like, it is true because it is true. This being said the period known as Shruthi [that which is heard] has to considered as well as the root languange. A recent study shows the Brahmins of Kerala reciting vedic mantras which have bird sounds as part of it therefore it would appear that the Shruthi phase has retained some primary linguistic sounds that are not presented in the Smrithi phase.
Hence the mature Smrithi Rg Veda is the result of much earlier development in language than Western scholars would like to believe.
Dear Chandra Date of Mahabharatha events is agreed by all to be BC that itself puts it beyond Giglamesh and sumerians BC , Rig veda is the oldest among vedas and older than upanishad and epics like Ramayana and Mahabharta. You can calculate dates based on that. Yes the period of Mahabharat should be around BCE. As Ramayana is much older than Mahabharat era, it should be around to As Vedas came into being even before Ramayana period, the gedic period should at least be years before.
The western scholars or researchers had willfully or out of ignorance quoted the date of Vedas around BCE. These are good articles, but our mindset has been altered so radically, that we are ashamed to contradict the Occidental for fear of Ridicule. I have presentation on the Indic Intellectual tradition that can be viewed on scribd.
There are several astronomic markers that indicate that terminus ante quem date the latest possible date for the oral composition of the Rg is BCE. The script came shortly thereafter. There are cuneiform documents that date back to BCE. There is ample evidence that the Vedas are of great antiquity.
But the Occidental has fallen into this trap of thinking that the Vedas are the ramblings of a pastoral nomads amnd they refuse to admit the possibiliy of a vedic episteme. Tjhey have built themselves a gulag from which their mind cannot escape. Good analysis and you have stated a brutal truth, we trust Western scholars even more than Indian Vedic scholars.
Despite the fact that the West has vested interests and blatantly and repeatedly mistranslated and misinterpreted our Vedic Sanskrit to make it fit into their petty agenda of racial superiority.
Absolutely great , in fact any one who understands India, to be precise Bharat, will easily grasp the continuity of Indian civilisation. In fact when I read in school about Aryan Invasion theory, it seemed strange to me. I am same as a south indian rather than european. Cotton finds mention in the earliest Sutras but is absent from the Vedas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas. Hence, if the Rigvedic people came after the Harappans, how can they be ignorant of cotton?
Similarly, rice is not known to the Rigveda and the Avesta, while it is present in several Harappan sites within and outside the Indus valley. Therefore, the Rigveda has to precede the Harappan Culture.
Silver is known from BC only, and is not found in this Veda, which must therefore antedate it. Harappan seals with evidence of spoked shells are dated to BC far before the supposed invasion which Wheeler claims to have introduced the chariot and spoked wheel; evidence of equine remains is available dated before BC and even at Hallur in Karnataka c. If the horse is a conclusive sign of Aryan presence, then it is in India long before the Harappan Civilization in Neolithic sites. Moreover, a terracotta horse-like figurine with a saddle on its back has been found in Balu in the Harappan urban phase.
Sethna also provides evidence, going back to much before the second millennium BC of heavy flooding of Harappan settalements, with five floods found in Mohenjo Daro itself, each lasting for several decades.
Considerable rise in the coast-line of the Arabian Sea is also a geological fact he cites. Hence there is no need to posit an invading Aryan horde to demolish imaginary dams where natural forces are at work.
Further, points out Sethna, if invasion came from the north, why is it southern Mohenjo Daro instead of northern Harappan sites that shows noticeable decline in material prosperity? The coup de grace is administered with evidence from undersea excavations at Dwaraka, dating the submergence to c. If the Kurukshetra war occurred around this time, surely the period of the Rig Veda would have to be considerably anterior to it and by no means c.
How could the Aryans invade just a couple of centuries before the great war? Necessarily, therefore, the Rig Veda precedes the Harappa Culture that ended around the middle of the second millennium BC. Rigveda has References to Rice?
Main Problem is we are arguing with ideas promoted by Western scholars. In this case Rice is native to India. Indus valley sites have rice. So they came from Outside. Now our argument is based on this theory provided by Western Scholars.
My point even if you take that as true for argument, still Aryan Invasion theory does not have chance. Around BC rice is already found in Indus Valley.
How can it be not around BC proposed by western Scholars. Any native culture will not give one word to describe that is found in abundance in the area. There will be many names to describe the same object. The same theory here, why should rice have single name in vast India. It can have so many names. The Argument that all the rig veda names should have originated in Indo-European words is false. This is simply nice to see an unbiased opinion on Rig Vedic date.
Also, dried river Saraswati , is mentioned inumerable times in Rig veda this itself will put the Rig vedic date at B. All in other vedic literature, the hermitages of sages on the banks of River Saraswati are mentioned and one of the sages is Vyasa whose hermitage is mentioned on the banks of River Saraswati and he is credited to divide the single veda into 4 vedas. V and speculate an arbitrary date without any knowledge.
Max muller who was a german was hired by the east india company to erase the history of India, which includes the Manipulated history by the Muslims invadors, how they destroyed many temples of Sanatan dharma, and how they changed Tajo Mahalay into Taj Mahal.
Also Max muller created fake Aryan invastion theory, and termed Sanskrit as Indo - Aryan, later the fake aryan invasion theory was used by Hitler to commit Genocide, who also used the swastika and flipped the symbol in more ways than one. There are many pictures in the links for you to see. So before saying it was made by the mughals, look at the links first. You will see how the destroyers call themselves creators now.
Aryan invasion in india also suggests that Aryans might have migrated to India from nortwest. This doesn't mean nobody was there at the time of migration.
So can be called as a invasion. The geograpical information given in Rigveda changes from the begining of the Book to the end in a sequence supporting the migration from the nortwest. The migration derived from the rig veda cannot be date back before Indus valley civilization.
Because then it should be dated before B. The language spoken by the present people at that place is a Indo-Aryan Sanskrit derived language. So if it is dated back before B. The period of Sanskrit derived language speaking people will become B. But the Indus people B. This suggests there would not be any overlap in time. This clearly shows the mistake in the prediction of any one of the date. Carbon aging calculations proves the indus valley period. So the mistake would only happen in the date of the migration.
It can only be dated back before and cannot be date back before indus valley civilization. From that it is confirmed that Rigveda is after Indus valley civilization. Public users can however freely search the site and view the abstracts and keywords for each book and chapter.
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Sign up. According to a Sanathana Dharma web page :. The sound was a monosyllable: Om. Since Om is related to the beginning of the universe , Hindus consider it the most sacred syllable with which Vedic mantras commence. Om is the principal name of the Supreme Being. It refers to all that it manifest and beyond. According to Vedic literature music originated from nada or sound, which is the product of akash or ether: There are two types of sound. The ahat or struck sound is audible whereas the anahata or unstruck sound is inaudible.
It evolves first in a causal forms as anahata and then in the gross form of sound emanates from the vocal chord and is sweet and soothing, it is called snageetam or music. The anahata nada is most significant for yogis who have reached the highest level of consciousness. It is the internal sound they hear, after prolonged meditation and ardous yogic discipline.
Ordinary human beings are engaged with the ahat nada. Indian musical traditions trace the origin of music to the Sama Veda. It is a compendium of melodies, chants and rules required for the recitation of sacred hymns.
It serves as a textbook for priests officiating at Soma sacrifices. Vedic chants are set in a musical pattern, collectively known as Samgan. To this day, the chants are in three accented musical patterns called swaras, precursor of the present seven-note musical system. According to an Indian Classical Music web page :. All except SamaVeda were sung using only three notes, Anudaatta low , Udaatta middle and Svarita high.
In early manuscrpts of RigVeda, the text was written along with accent notes. Anudaatta is marked with an underline and Svarita is marked with a small vertical line above the syllable.
Udaatta is left unmarked. Sama Veda consists of about verses, called samans. One can see from the text of the Sama Veda mantra that the chanting notation in it is much more elaborate than that in the corresponding Rig Veda mantra.
SamaVeda was chanted using all seven notes prathama, dvitheeya, tritheeya, chathurtha, panchama, shashta and sapthama , in descending order, of the Vaidika scale or of sama gana which have been equated to Ma,Ga,Ri,Sa,Dha,Ni,Pa of the Laukika or Gandhara scale in later classical sanskrit texts like NaradiyaShiksha.
RigVedic hymns are directed at Gods, to be chanted during sacrifices to please them. It is possible Gods were thought to be fond of music and that it would be easier to please them if the hymns were sung rather than just chanted. Thus, many of the Rig Vedic hymns were set to music and sung and were known as samans, rather than just hymns Rik. The chanted Sama-Veda hymns or Samans were believed to possess the supernatural qualities capable of petitioning and even supporting the deities that controlled the forces of the universe.
Since Rig Vedic hymns are just metered they could not be sung using all the seven notes. It was these stobha syllables which were extended vocally with long duration on various notes of the Sama-Veda scale by the priests who had the special function of summoning the gods to the celebration through the use of droning monotone on a number of these tones, believing them to hold magical properties.
The wife of the chief sacrificer i.
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